17" PASSIER A/P--DRESSAGE SADDLE, SERIAL NUMBER IS VD 215374--15.5" FLAP--MED. TREE--6" GULLET--BEAUTIFUL SOFT DARK BROWN LEATHER, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MINOR SCRATCHES, OTHER THEN THAT THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH THIS SADDLE, BILLET STRAPS AND TREE ARE EXCELLENT.