17 " Kincade English Saddle with knee rolls. The leathers don't match but you cannot see them when you ride. Comes with irons. Shortest they go is 26", long as they go is 33". A few small scratches on the pommel and cantel but other than that this saddle is beautiful! Been stored in a bag indoors. Can include a 56" girth as well. Not riding English anymore so my loss is your gain.